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A first look at some of the statistical data.

What is your view of the comparative psychological health of believers in God and atheists?

Here is a first look at some of the statistical data from the survey.  Below I have broken down the responses to the question probing what atheists think of the psychological health of believers versus non-believers broken down by male, female and those that identified as transgender:

 

What is your view of the comparative psychological health of believers in God and atheists?

Female Male Transgender Response
Totals
Generally, believers are substantially more psychologically healthy than atheists. 0.2%
(5)
0.3%
(15)
0.0%
(0)
0.3%
(20)
Generally, believers are somewhat more psychologically healthy than atheists. 3.5%
(71)
4.7%
(201)
4.9%
(2)
4.3%
(274)
Generally, believers and atheists are equally psychologically healthy. 42.3%
(862)
38.3%
(1,643)
56.1%
(23)
39.7%
(2,528)
Generally, believers are somewhat less psychologically healthy than atheists. 39.0%
(795)
40.8%
(1,750)
29.3%
(12)
40.1%
(2,557)
Generally, believers are substantially less psychologically healthy than atheists. 15.0%
(305)
16.0%
(685)
9.8%
(4)
15.6%
(994)
Please use this space to elaborate on your answer. 743 replies 1,519 replies 22 replies 2,284

As you can see from the above, the majority of non-believers –55.7%– feel that believers are less psychologically healthy than non-believers.

 

Here are just a few interesting comments that illustrate the depth of thought people have put into their responses:

  • I’ve heard the same type of excuses made for abusive partners and “god” so many times it’s scary. Adherence to religious dogma is an abusive relationship. Your husband beats you because he’s afraid you’re cheating on him? He’s insecure and just wants to be sure you love him. You have cancer? God is testing your faith (he wants to be sure you love him). A massive power imbalance is not exactly a great predictor of a healthy relationship, is it? And what could be a bigger power imbalance than ANY HUMAN, and an omnipotent being? Here’s an interesting little article on the subject. http://atheism.about.com/od/whatisgod/p/AbuserAbusive.htm Or just Google “god religion abusive relationship”
  • The research tells us that those who put their lives into (whoever’s) hands will be psychologically helahtier. Life is much less stressful when you don’t have to make deciusions for yourself, and all your friends are in complete agreement with you!
  • To “believe”, which is to say, to have faith, is in this discussion meaning to accept a Theistic set of claims, without reasonable evidence that the claims are factual, and allow this acceptance to inform important decisions in life, including important moral choices. This is, to me, a sign of severe pshychological deficiency, and reflect an inability to deal with reality in a healthy way without the crutch of belief in the supernatural & dogmas.
  • I don’t consider believing in an invisible being without rigorously tested and validated evidence to be psychologically healthy.

And, for comic relief,

  • I would’ve chosen the last answer, but there are some atheists who believe in stupid shit, too.

 

 

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Survey off-line as of 11:59PM 20 Jan 2013

Survey off-line as of 11:59PM 20 Jan 2013.

If there is anyone outside of the United States that would like to have the survey re-activated for research purposes please contact me.  Cross-national comparison data may be useful in some cases.

As of now we have 8,339 responses.

Beginning next week I will be posting results as will several collaborators.

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Pulling the plug

Since the survey went “live” on December 1, 2012 the response has been extraordinarily good.  To date there have been 8,207 people that responded to the survey representing over 65 nations and every state in the US.  In 2008 I worked with Brother Richard on a similar survey that was live for three months and generated almost exactly the same number of responses.

Although we have generated an enormous amount of data -thanks to everyone that participated!- I have continued to keep the survey live because there are feelers (email messages describing the survey and other back channel efforts) out to non-believer groups in India, the UK and the Middle East and elsewhere with the hope being that we might get a flurry of responses from this or that nation that, ultimately, the data from which could be of service both to the the organizers and leaders in those nations and to those who hope to bring progress to international cooperation among and between organizations.

So, here we are in mid-January with about 20-40 responses per day, and I am considering pulling the plug, i.e., deactivating the survey.  So, if you know anyone or any organizational leader/blogger, etc. that might see some utility in rallying some additional responses, especially outside of the United States, now is the time.

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A response from an atheist from an Islamic country

The comment below was made in response to my last post regarding the difficulty in reaching out to non-believers in the Middle East. I think it is easy for many of us in the United States to be ignorant of the everyday struggles faced by our counterparts around the world, especially in Islamic nations.  This person’s comment, I think, is in some senses a call to action for those of us who are fortunate to be able to freely express our views.  How can we more demonstratively act in solidarity?

I agree. I myself originated from an Islamic country (unable to disclose) and are currently in the UK seeking asylum because of my Atheism. People in Islamic countries does not have any support for them facing the daily lives and tyranny of being forced into believing something that they don’t want to believe. Majority of Muslims are in the delusional state that they are in a war between forces of ‘good and evil’ in which for them being a Muslim and Islam is a force of good.

Unfortunately, although I am from an Islamic country, it’s nowhere near the Middle East. It’s a country in which boasts itself as being ‘multicultural’ yet if you research on it, it has a lot history of breaking even the most fundamental of human rights – which explains why it is not part of the United Nation Covenant on Civil Political Right (because they believe it is an ‘evil’ western agenda to confuse the Muslim majority). And according to the country’s Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Human Rights DOES NOT apply to Muslims so they don’t have the right to chose their faith and apostasy is punished to either death or severe mental and physical torture at their Islamic Re-education Center until one repent and becomes a Muslim again.
 
Atheists like myself don’t want to run and seek asylum in another country, but with no one protecting us and the government (in which we contributed in tax payments wanted to prosecute us), what choices do we have?
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Morality and Newtown

One of the very first questions in the survey deals with morality:  “How do you view the morality of religious believers as compared to the morality of atheists?”  To date, there have been over 7600 respondents to the survey and over 3300 have added comments after selecting their response to this question.

Here are a few of the comments, the first two of which summarize the sentiments of many others:

  • “I feel moral behaviour stands independent of religiosity.”
  • “Because bibles says so is a bad answer to a moral question.”
  • “My experienced with those who claim to be deeply religious is that they use religion to justify their prejudices and bigotry.”
  • “Morality can be understood in terms of the impact of laws/actions on the well-being of others. It must be treated like a field of science. Religious believers are generally not bad people, but faith in the moral teachings of a religious doctrine can lead to immoral behavior.”
  • “For the most part, people are just people. However, religion can (and does) give people justification to commit atrocities that a nonreligious person wouldn’t consider.”

The rhetoric surrounding the Newtown tragedy from the religious community has, in large part, both implicitly and explicitly made the argument that we need religion to make us whole, to heal our wounds and, most critically, as a source for moral guidance.  Of all the things that bother many atheists –based on the data from the 2008 survey and these 2012 data- is is the assumption by believers that atheists lack morals.

The literature within evolutionary psychology specifically and more generally from other areas of scientific research indicates that, as Robert Wright titles his 1994 work, just that, we are “The Moral Animal.”  Wright merely extends what Darwin over 100 years earlier had pointed out in The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals (1872).  Sam Harris in his many books, articles and interviews is perhaps one of the most articulate proponents of this viewpoint and provides a wonderful one-two punch along with Dan Dennett’s offerings.  Interestingly and not coincidentally, they both have a great deal to say about free will as well.

So, here’s a new poll question:

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Some thoughts on what these data might -or might not- mean

As of this morning there have been nearly 7500 respondents to the survey representing every state in the US and dozens of nations around the globe.  Canada, Australia and the UK are very well represented, fairly predictable since the survey is in English, but there are pockets of responses from Brazil, Germany and South Africa, among others.

But what, if anything, can be taken from these data?  Those that responded to the survey are demonstratively not a random sample of atheists world-wide, but rather very much a self-selected array of folks that most likely look somewhat different from the entire population of atheists.  But is a truly representative global sample of atheists possible?  I tend to think not, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that I suspect that there are many, many atheists who are very closeted (even to themselves?) and that these individuals would never find the survey in the first place since visiting sites that might have a link to the survey (most prominently, Atheist Nexus) would be socially dangerous.  It is my position that exploratory data is better than none, though I am aware that some will disagree with this stance.

In the end, I feel that the narrative, qualitative data that is generated by the open-ended responses will be of the greatest value to those that are interested in moving forward issues of interest to atheists worldwide, especially in the United States.  The statistical, descriptive data will be interesting, to be sure, but I will be very mindful to stress that since the sample is not representative of the population of atheists any generalizations and/extrapolations must be critically examined.

As for the many “mini-polls” that accent this blog, everything above applies as well.

So, what are your thoughts?

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Suggest a poll question to be added to this site

Toward the goal of serving atheists, I invite those that visit this blog to suggest their own questions for the “mini” polls you see throughout this site (and always on the right side of the main page).  Make your  poll question suggestions in the comments  section under this post and I will add those that seem to have broad interest.

There have been spirited and insightful comments responding to the “mea culpa” post regarding gender, and I would be especially interested in seeing someone suggest a poll question that would address one or more of the issues raised there.   Poll question suggestions concerning other themes and issues are welcome as well.

Have at it!

This poll suggested by one of our blog readers: 

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Word cloud

What responses to stigmatization look like

Below is a “word cloud” of the last 25 responses to the survey question, “Please provide a recent example of a social situation where you experienced stigmatization because you are an atheist.”  So over 4000 people have done the survey and nearly 1200 responded to this open-ended question about personal stories related to stigma and atheism.

 

 

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We could use a world with more reason

Here in the United States we are yet again reeling from another mass killing, this time in an elementary school.  As I click around on Facebook, Twitter and on various blogs and news feeds I find a wide array of responses to the tragedy in Connecticut, some more resonant with my feelings than others.

Two responses of which I took particular note dovetailed in that they both reference a video that has gone viral.  Both Brother Richard and Brian Dalton (Mr. Deity) refer to Bryan Fischer’s reaction which blames schools for “kicking God out.”  He argues that “God is a gentleman and does not go where he is not welcomed and invited.”  I wonder where He was in 1994 in Rwanda. A church filled with nearly 1000 believers was left filled with corpses over three bloody days, sadly only an exclamation point on a 100 day, 800,000 person genocide.  I also wonder was when thousands of young boys were -and, horribly, still are-  being  molested by priests.

The fact that religious “nones” are the fastest growing group in the United States should come as little surprise.  Finding God has indeed become harder and harder for many.  Who would want to worship an omnipotent God who looks passively on massive human misery?

Yes, Friday there was an unthinkably sad event in the US that led to the deaths of 20 young boys and girls, but according to UNICEF “Research and experience show that six million of the almost 11 million children who die each year could be saved by low-tech, evidence-based, cost-effective measures such as vaccines, antibiotics, micronutrient supplementation, insecticide-treated bed nets and improved family care and breastfeeding practices.”

Doing the math, that means over 16,000 children also died last Friday in what could be called “genocide by neglect.”  Simple question:  why do we ignore 16,000 and at the same time have saturation coverage of 20?  Why will we come to know the names and faces of the victims in suburban Connecticut but rarely if ever learn the stories of the thousands that die each day unnoticed?  How is it that we are taught that we are all equal but act as if some lives are clearly more important than others?

We need a world with fewer guns, more reason and a balanced set of priorities.

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Mea culpa: critical question omitted from the “Understanding the world of atheists” survey

How can the atheist movement (to the extent there is one) be more gender inclusive in terms of its public face and its organizational leadership?

I would like to candy coat this by saying “better late than never” but that would be disingenuous.  Or I could blame it on my XY chromosomal makeup, but that would ignore the fact that gender roles -and hence gender-biased behavior- are social constructs.  So I’ll just blame it on being an imperfect researcher (which I most definitely am).

So here goes,

How can the atheist movement (to the extent there is one) be more gender inclusive in terms of its public face and its organizational leadership?

Add your thoughts below by clicking on the  Post a comment link or tweeting to #servingatheists.
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